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Subject:Re: [RT] Is Cocoon Obsolete?Actions...
From:Jorg Heymans (jh@domek.be)
Date:Oct 3, 2005 4:09:15 am
List:org.apache.cocoon.dev

Luca Morandini wrote:

Consider: 1) Declining cocoon-users activity.

This worries me as well, especially the last couple of months it has become very obvious [1].

"Why?" you might ask: Is the framework stable? Have most issues been solved/answered already? Does everything Just Work(tm) and we only have happy users? Or are people silently jumping ship?

2) Reduced attendance (so far) to GetTogether (and it shouldn't be, since Amsterdam is a more accessible, if less fascinating, location).

possibly an artifact of 1) yes. It's strange enough to say the least. Maybe the topics weren't interesting enough for normal joe-user?

3) Struts being more and more popular.

often discussed here, very true - as much as we hate (to admit) it

My 0.02 EUR: I think Cocoon will remain a "niche" framework, used for complex applications and/or by gifted developers.

Yup, and that's exactly the niche we need to get out of.

<marketing type="idea"> Lets do a video like Rails [2], a picture says more than a thousand words, a video more than a thousand pictures! WDOT? Can something like this put us to shame or work in our advantage? </marketing>

Jorg

[1] http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.text.xml.cocoon.user [2] http://www.rubyonrails.com/media/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov