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46 messages in org.apache.cocoon.devRe: Renaming Corona to Cocoon 3.0 and...| From | Sent On | Attachments |
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| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 6, 2008 4:19 am | |
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| Ralph Goers | Aug 6, 2008 7:43 am | |
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| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 16, 2008 7:19 am | |
| Ralph Goers | Aug 16, 2008 7:32 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 17, 2008 7:44 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 17, 2008 8:14 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 17, 2008 10:41 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 18, 2008 2:23 am | |
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| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 18, 2008 4:21 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 5:12 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 5:13 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 5:47 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 18, 2008 6:22 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 18, 2008 6:23 am | |
| Grzegorz Kossakowski | Aug 18, 2008 6:28 am | |
| Reinhard Pötz | Aug 18, 2008 6:29 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 8:04 am | |
| Ralph Goers | Aug 18, 2008 8:21 am | |
| Carsten Ziegeler | Aug 18, 2008 8:41 am | |
| Jeremy Quinn | Aug 18, 2008 8:56 am | |
| Sylvain Wallez | Aug 18, 2008 8:57 am | |
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| Subject: | Re: Renaming Corona to Cocoon 3.0 and infrastructure | Actions... |
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| From: | Ralph Goers (Ralp...@dslextreme.com) | |
| Date: | Aug 18, 2008 8:21:13 am | |
| List: | org.apache.cocoon.dev | |
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
By "chronic disease", I was referring to Maven. And it's not specific to Cocoon, but to many other projects. Maven has brought one new brillant idea to the Java world, which is artifact repositories (note though that Linux repositories have existed for a very long time). But using Maven requires to adhere to the whole thing: repository management, which is good, but also a declarative under-documented build system. And Maven is also self-updating, which is a nice idea on paper but means the buid is not repeatable since you don't know what is used to build your system.
Wow. I guess you don't like Maven.
There are other alternatives to your complaints - like becoming a committer there and fixing them. Using Ant + Ivy has all the downfalls of GNU Make. Instead of one "undocumented" (not sure where you get that from) build system you end up with every build system being different and usually, mostly undocumented.
As for the self-updating, dependency management allows you to have complete control over the artifacts you wish to use. My contribution to Maven has to continue to make that aspect better.
Ralph







